Creative caught crippling their products!!!

[Drum Thumper]

It's called Capitalism. They've got every right to do whatever they choose to do--hell, they could use hot pink boards for all I care. Soundcards are their business is it not? And the number one reason to go into business is to make money, regardless of what some people would love for you to think.

[Spawn-Inc]

well i will stop buying there stuff, minus there mp3 palyers, though i never use mp3 palyers all that much anymore. i still have my creative Zen micro working and i'm very happy with it. way better than that sheepish ipod.

[Drum Thumper]

And that is your choice as well.

On a somewhat related note, I have heard nothing but great things about the Turtle Beach brand of soundcards. However, I do not know for sure if they make a low-profile card or not. Newegg doesn't have one listed...

[Cannibal23]

yep its called capitalism, as our friend Drumthumper pointed out. everyone is out to make a buck even if sometimes you have to throw your ethics out the window. someone else on here pointed out that microsoft was doing the same thing with vista but nobody complained. Plenty of computer people complained i know i sure did. problem is alot of people that arent computer savvy dont care or dont understand whats going on wich is why this kind of thing usually slips by.

i understand that companies are out to make money. thats just buisness, its when they are doing so by being slimey and underhanded that people should take note and not allow it. if people just say.. oh well whatever i'll still buy their stuff it says that this is a market of consumers that will allow that. it takes the market control out of the consumers hands and puts it in corperate hands. this is a very bad idea because it allows companies to just do whatever they want with no responsability to its clients. a companies goal is supposed to be to make money and make their customer base happy.

[mtekk]

This guy is damn lucky he doesn't live in the United States--he'd most likely be in jail right now. He got a proverbial slap on the wrist and he's bitching more than a two year old because he got told no.

The funny thing is that the Daniel_K guy has been very understanding, and cooperative with this, as far as I can tell. It's the Diggers that have gone bat $%&* crazy over this.

[jdbnsn]

I've been disgusted with Creative for ages now from a support standpoint, this news doesn't make me happy but doesn't shock me either. I'm not entirely sure I agree with statements like "the number one reason to go into business is to make money" however. Business is very much about financial success, but it often starts with a love for something else (whether it's writing software, making buggy whips, finding creative methods of moving un-cut cocaine into the U.S., or building soundcards). If there is no solid product of service under the business then it's not nearly as apt for longevity. Corporations are another story altogether (a bit of a crime against the proletariats in my eyes), managers or board members are legally bound to make decisions which stand to maximize stockholder's investment returns or they are guilty of committing a form of fraud against the stockholder. So for example, in the cocaine running business, you as a corporate coke runner have a legal obligation to make each gram of your sweet nose candy as valuable as possible or Pablo Escobar comes to your house and sings you a lullaby. So you cut it with powdered milk, cook it into crack, whatever you can to make each gram bring back the most money for your stockholders (the Columbian crime syndicates). But the diligent coke retailer must not push it too far by cutting his stockholders products down to nose garbage to the point that the customers stop buying his products and goes elsewhere (and if there is no alternative, there is nothing to protect Johnny and Sally Crackpipe from being taken advantage of and the gov declares it a monopoly, dividing the Columbian trade into South American, South East Vietnamese, and Middle Eastern import services).
In my eyes, the nature of business is to negotiate a fair exchange for both parties, the nature of marketing and ad agencies is to try to negotiate an unfair exchange or increase the frequency of exchanges, the nature of incorporation is to protect the rich from becoming poor and making it legal to squeeze blood from a turnip.

[crenn]

Before anyone points fingers at vista's release, can I point out that the only problem vista had at the start was lack of drivers from manufacturers? Yes there were other problems, but most of the problems were the lack of drivers. Vista is not a bad operating system, once I get enough cash to upgrade my GPU, I'll be upgrading my system permanently to vista.

[Omega]

Yes it sucks, but I don't think this is a reason to run off and replace everything creative that you own. If It's already bricked, though, then it's fine but really, don't waste the money.

Oh, and that does suck. But hey, they're allowed to.

[Luke122]

Before anyone points fingers at vista's release, can I point out that the only problem vista had at the start was lack of drivers from manufacturers? Yes there were other problems, but most of the problems were the lack of drivers. Vista is not a bad operating system, once I get enough cash to upgrade my GPU, I'll be upgrading my system permanently to vista.

I second that.. despite my apparent hate of Vista, it's more frustration at lack of support for legacy hardware/software that is holding me back.

Once support comes, or the legacy is obsolete, I'll be in Vistaland too.

[crenn]

The thing is, majority of newer hardware has full Vista support. I know my desktop system runs Vista fine, I haven't taken the install off (I haven't used it as much though)