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niko7209
05-16-2006, 01:41 PM
So today in the parking lot of my apartment complex i saw someone carrying an old case to the dumpster. I said hey wait! i'll take that, dude. so i bring it home and heres the contents on first inspection:
3x hard drives, 4gb, and 2 2 gbs
floppy, cd, cdr
mobo, intel cpu, vga, and sound board, COVERED in dust.
[more details to follow, i have class soon]

my question is this:
is it possible to make this old piece of crap act as a network hub for me and my friend to play quake 3 and such on? what additional components would i need to make this happen? what operating system would/should i use?
-OR-
any other creative ideas for a busted old computer? the guy said its 6-8 years old.

EDIT:
the REAL contents of this junker are:
-30.0gb WD hd, 4311mb seagate hd, 9.1gb ibm hd
-diamond ??? vga (agp)
-soundblaster live!
-generic cdrom and hp cdr drive
-ABIT VP6 with TWO INTEL CPUS?! is this possible? how old is dual chip?
-I'll know everything for sure if/when i get it up and running

Aero
05-16-2006, 07:07 PM
hmm cool. I want to go dumpster diving myself but can't with my car, a bit too, eerrr... unique.

Interesting Dual procesor. While dual processing (i.e.: hyperthreading) became popular with P4's I think there were a few P3's that used it, but I could be mistaken.

Omega
05-16-2006, 07:11 PM
If you want a network hub, go out and spend the 30$ for a switch, yo. You'll spend way more than that getting enough network cards.


However, that's pretty awesome. I would say throw linux on it, make the case look nice, and have a bitchin' Linux rig.

Omega
05-16-2006, 07:13 PM
If you want a network hub, go out and spend the 30$ for a switch, yo. You'll spend way more than that getting enough network cards.


However, that's pretty awesome. I would say throw linux on it, make the case look nice, and have a bitchin' Linux rig.

tybrenis
05-16-2006, 07:44 PM
Double post huh?

niko7209
05-16-2006, 08:03 PM
Omega -
How would I make this rig into a hub? Just by throwing 8 pci network cards into it? And how can linux help me in this endeavour? i've never used linux before.

Failing that, my plan is as follows. Buy a 40-50 buck network hub (switch?) and mount it into the case, using the power supply and a bunch of extra fans and maybe some heatsinks i have lying around to cool it. oh, and lots and lots of LEDs. Gotta have that.

onelegout
05-16-2006, 08:11 PM
turn it into a server! 'twould be a great ftp/web/quake server! Run apache web server on linux.

Omega
05-16-2006, 08:25 PM
Omega -
How would I make this rig into a hub? Just by throwing 8 pci network cards into it? And how can linux help me in this endeavour? i've never used linux before.

Failing that, my plan is as follows. Buy a 40-50 buck network hub (switch?) and mount it into the case, using the power supply and a bunch of extra fans and maybe some heatsinks i have lying around to cool it. oh, and lots and lots of LEDs. Gotta have that.


Well, you see, Buying 8 Ethernet (or gigabit) cards and optimizing it for useage like a switch would be much more costly in both money and time. And i just said linux because, well, it's free.

Cevinzol
05-17-2006, 12:40 AM
your dumpster M/B is probably from an old server. Many servers used 2 or 4 proccessors (not dual core but full CPUs) to balance the load on them. That means you have the beginings of a usable file server.

As for a switch/hub.. go buy one it'll be cheaper.

opengswede
05-17-2006, 02:27 AM
i agree with all of the above. a hub / switch is cheaper and easier. use the old crap as a server for something. And linux: well, it's free and have native support for dual / quad processors (at least the kernel). IE efficient and fairly easy to set up for dual processors.

Windows and old computers is a challenge, especially with > 1 processor. I remember hacking matlab code a couple of years back ( think more than 5) and the comp I used had dual processors. The funny thing was that, running matlab configured for 2 processors actually slowed the computing time down. I'm guessing that matlab didn't have good support for dual processors, meaning the time it took to divide the processing over two different cpu was more than it took to compute the thing in the first place.

i'll stop my rambling now.
-.erik

nil8
05-17-2006, 08:48 AM
That would make a good little linux server. Clean it up, new fans, new thermal paste, a couple of coats of paint, etc etc.

Does it run?

Tech-Daddy
05-17-2006, 09:36 AM
2 physical, single core CPUS have been going on for years. I have a dual P3 @ home, and I have a Dual P2 Slot1 motherboard for those that dont believe such a thing exists! ;)

You can still get a lot of work done with that rig. I plan on turning my dual CPU into a mod in the future. The P3's rocked back in the day, and I'll have 2 of them stirring up trouble in the near future!
:D

niko7209
05-17-2006, 05:26 PM
OK, here's the deal so far. It is indeed a dual p3, Tech. However, the chips themselves look like they have serious burn damage, and I could not get the system to run. I found this rig in the dumpster, and I'm not gonna go buy two more p3s, thatd be a waste of time and money. So here's what I'm doing:
http://photos-339.facebook.com/n23/117/8/16500508/n16500508_30212339_5330.jpg
http://photos-340.facebook.com/n23/117/8/16500508/n16500508_30212340_5836.jpg
Note the cheap-ass modifications. Everything in this case was either found in the garbage or was spare parts (fans). Um, also, this case has no sides. Where did they go, one wonders.
I ordered an 8-port Netgear Network Hub ($50 on newegg). I'm going to mount that into this case, maybe even take the cover off of it, and put those extra heatsinks (the two little ones came from this dumpster mobo and the big one came from my gaming rig cause i got a coolermaster aquagate120) on any large processors. I'm also going to wire a switch and led from the case to the hub, so that the hub doesnt ever have to leave the case. I'll post more pictures when I'm finished! And maybe I'll find a new, whole, case in another dumpster and put it in that so there's no gaping holes!