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Oneslowz28
08-06-2010, 12:06 AM
Looks like Nvidia posted a decent loss this quarter.

Read the full article here http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/07/29/nvidias-mistakes-catch-bottom-line/ .


If you read the release here (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=116466&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1453347&highlight=), Nvidia states what we all knew was coming, that their Q2 revenue would crater. Nvidia says it will be down from an expected $950-970 million to $800-820 million. That is a nearly 20% drop, and it comes less than a week before the end of the quarter. It is astounding that that Nvidia financial folk didn't realize this before, even more so if you know their channel problems. It is almost like the company was trying to mislead investors, but such an honest company would never do that................


To make matters more problematic, Nvidia's entire line from $198 MSRP down, is obsolete. Last September, the first DirectX 11 graphics card was released, and by early 2010, ATI had a top to bottom DX11 lineup. Nvidia's cheapest DX11 card costs $199, and prices go up from there, a vanishingly small market segment in terms of units. This means they can only compete for 10% or less of the market with non-obsolete parts....................


If you recall, before the launch of the GTX470 and GTX480, Nvidia forced retailers to buy several junk cards for every non-obsolete card they wanted (http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/03/23/nvidia-forces-garbage-those-wanting-gtx480s/). This is called channel stuffing, and from what we gather, it lead to an almost total stoppage in orders later in Q2. Nvidia knew this would happen, but they did it anyway to forestall Dear Leader from having to face the analysts with bad news during the company's Q1 call. Once again, the hope was that some miracle (http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/04/14/samsung-dumps-nvidia-tegra/) would save them........................

To make matters worse, sources in both Santa Clara and the far east tell SemiAccurate that Nvidia is canceling wafer starts on 40nm. ATI can't get enough, the industry is on massive allocation, and Nvidia is giving up some of those precious wafer starts. Ironically, these excess wafers will probably go to ATI, a company who's products do not seem to be affected by those darn prevailing economic conditions or RAM fluctuations. Imagine that!.............

Locum51
08-06-2010, 09:33 AM
Dang, ATI is really taking it to Nvidia!

farlo
08-06-2010, 11:31 AM
i wonder how much of it has to do with the gf4xx series being way overpriced, other than the 460's.

Luke122
08-06-2010, 02:20 PM
Overpriced, overheating, and undersupplied....

altec
08-06-2010, 04:39 PM
I want Voodoo cards back... That is all I have to say. :):bunny:

billygoat333
08-06-2010, 08:53 PM
I want Voodoo cards back... That is all I have to say. :):bunny:

this. I miss 3dfx. lol

BuzzKillington
08-07-2010, 02:48 AM
Google has been seeing a fall here lately too, believe it or not. They're still making a profit, but barely. How a company like google can loose money, I have no idea considering they bring in something like 18 billion a year or some ridiculous amount. Where the hell are they spending 18billion dollars?! I'd have to find the magazine I just read it in. It's around here somewhere.

crenn
08-07-2010, 03:01 AM
Rumour has it they hired a furry.

Collinstheclown
08-10-2010, 12:00 PM
Google has been seeing a fall here lately too, believe it or not. They're still making a profit, but barely. How a company like google can loose money, I have no idea considering they bring in something like 18 billion a year or some ridiculous amount. Where the hell are they spending 18billion dollars?! I'd have to find the magazine I just read it in. It's around here somewhere.

Have you seen all the services they offer?

http://www.google.com/intl/en/options/

That's alot of money to run the crapton of servers and staff they have. Just about all of it is free to use. And they've also sunk tons in Andriods development, and the Google branded phone cost money to make.




-CollinstheClown

Luke122
08-10-2010, 03:53 PM
I've heard (somewhere, not sure if it's true or not) that all of Google's datacenters are carbon neutral.

That's pretty freaking impressive!

Twigsoffury
08-12-2010, 05:13 PM
this. I miss 3dfx. lol



I've still got my Voodoo2 card in a box downstairs... thats how cool voodoo's are.

Currently rolling a Radeon 5770. ( i sided with the dark side)

x88x
08-12-2010, 07:39 PM
Wow, I knew they were lagging behind but I didn't know it was that bad. This makes me even more interested to see how they'll be affected by the Radeon HD 6xxx cards launching in Q4 this year.

Oneslowz28
08-12-2010, 10:54 PM
I am keeping my eye on things. Lots of buzz in certain circles I frequent about the 6xxx series.

I have been an Nvidia guy from the start. I briefly owned a ATI card when Doom 3 first launched as it was a combo deal. I quickly upgraded to a Nvidia card a month or so later. My current card is Nvidia, but now I am considering moving to dual 5970's.

Konrad
08-13-2010, 05:37 AM
Hey, it's just (start of) the tail-end of a recession. People aren't buying luxury items, things like laptop computers ... they either can't afford or they feel more secure hanging on to the money "just in case".

As it turns out, the vast overwhelming bulk of nVidia's graphics (and income) happens to be integrated into laptop mobos, and to a lesser extent, into desktop mobos. The majority of these sales appeal to "normal" consumers, a bang-for-the-buck "last year's tech" kind of market where gamers have little impact.

nVidia and ATI both saw slumping sales on discrete cards carrying their own brands, both saw fairly neutral figures on the chipsets they sold to 3rd-party-brands; gamers and power-users feel the economic crunch, too, but have the passion, desire, or need to purchase these cards anyways.

Just my theory, I could be wrong.